Active Disinterest By Style - Continued

[Vagabond]

If you've read Style's post on active disinterest, it's a great one and worth rehashing.

I'd love to hear more from him and anyone else that sarges a lot of SHB10s and 11s. In particular, can anyone share some specific examples of opening up sets with negs in this way? The line of going too far and simply snubbing her is a thin but fun one to walk. Style mentions giving out IODs and offending them right off the bat. Can we get some anecdotes to illustrate this?


Example:

My brother approached a SHB10 in Hollywood at a club. They were introduced to each other by a third party. Here's how it went down:

HB: "I'm Audrey."

Bro: "Who cares."

He followed by looking away nonchalantly as if he could care less. Some dude next to them was talking to her. My brother went for his wallet and pulled out two 20s.

Bro: (interrupting the dude) "Here's 40 bucks, why don't you go outside and get yourself some pussy?"

The dude was so taken aback he didn't even get angry. He was more confused and weirded out.

Bro: (to HB) "We're gonna go to a strip club and throw dollar bills at the animals. You wanna come with us or sit here and die of fucking boredom?"


The HB left with him and eventually they started dating. My brother is a total pig and even took a shit in her bed once! It was right after sex. He claimed it was accidental. But even that did not offend her. She only grimaced and then stooped down to sniff it!


QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS:


I, personally, would never go this far. But I do think that the greater the difference between the social proof of the HB and the PUA, the more negs required. Meaning, if she's a famous actress (high social proof) and you work at a subway in Kentucky, you're going to have to neg her to death.

But if you're rich and handsome and she knows it, does this change the opening?

How does it evolve from pissing her off to her actually giving you IOIs?

What kind of shit tests do you encounter? Do you "pass" them by just giving her a shit test back?

This is a tricky step for me. I'd love to hear some feedback with examples.

[A.J.]

Originally Posted by Vagabond

Bro: (to HB) "We're gonna go to a strip club and throw dollar bills at the animals. You wanna come with us or sit here and die of fucking boredom?"

LMFAO omg ok i consider myself to be bad but wow, im so stealing that line i dont care if i get beat down for it.....

oh and btw active disinterest is best described if your at the bar, see the hottie and then pretend like you dont notice her or that shes not all amazing

this can be shown thru negs or general DQ to a degree

*your talking to group and getting introduced*

hb: hi im amanda

you: hey im A.J.

*turn bac towards group to give slight feeling of disinterest to her and continue on with routines it shows your not going to give any special attention to her, almost like your....disinterested? (the active part is where you know your doing it and are calabrating as you go along)

this is how i see it and apply it, feel free to correct me if you disagree...

[Vagabond]

A.J.

NIce of you to chime in...


Here's a new one for you. You are a memeber and seem to have a skill set. I have gotten by on my looks for my whole life. But tonight I actually leaped a hurdle i never did before:


I opened a 2 set of an HB8.5 and and 10.. (for sure 10) .. I completely ignored the target and DHV'ed the obstacle until she was laughing. I gave a line like this then.. to keep the fluff going:

"Have you ever milked a cow before?"

I was going to crack open a routine, but then the 10 chimes in...after being ignored for so long...

HB: "You know what? You're totally rude."

Me: "what's rude?"

HB: "that's totally rude that you ask a girl if she milked a cow.. she's..."

Me: (interrupting) "Excuse me but i'm from a small town and milking cows is a total compliment where i come from. (turning to the obstacle) "Does this girl have any manners? HOw rude?" (Back to target) "I've milked cows my whole life and I wasn't trying to be rude. I was trying to give her a compliment. "

I continued to tell the obstacle: "you know, you're such a nice girl. YOu have a strong, confident personality. YOu obviously don't get insecure. You must come from a big family."


NOw... the compliment made the obstacle grab me and touch my arm. The target so this and so I said: "Real women milk cows. You have to get with it."

The target started to touch my arm and giggle!

I"ve never had a turn around like that in one comment...

BUt where do i go from there? I was actually so excited about the neg working that I turned my back on her and started talking to my wing again. I ignored the set for a while and then chimed back in with another opener...


Any comments on where to go from here. It could have been a false IOI to begin with. I don't know but every AFC in the club was making my look good by sucking up to her.


Someone give me some forward gaming from this point...

[Vagabond]

SPELLING CORRECTIONS ON MY DRUNK POST:


Sorry.. i just came in from the the field and i drank a little...
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WHen the obstacle grabbed my arm... THe target SAW this..and grabbed too...


Where do i go from here?

[Flair]

The HB left with him and eventually they started dating. My brother is a total pig and even took a shit in her bed once! It was right after sex. He claimed it was accidental. But even that did not offend her. She only grimaced and then stooped down to sniff it!

How does one "accidentally" shit in an HB's bed?

[LivinThedream]

Originally Posted by Vagabond

Bro: (to HB) "We're gonna go to a strip club and throw dollar bills at the animals. You wanna come with us or sit here and die of fucking boredom?"

LOL this coudl possibly be the funniest line I have ever heard - Andrew Dice Clay style.

[RecoveringAFC]

Only low value guys have to act like your brother did.

Originally Posted by Vagabond

If you've read Style's post on active disinterest, it's a great one and worth rehashing.

I'd love to hear more from him and anyone else that sarges a lot of SHB10s and 11s. In particular, can anyone share some specific examples of opening up sets with negs in this way? The line of going too far and simply snubbing her is a thin but fun one to walk. Style mentions giving out IODs and offending them right off the bat. Can we get some anecdotes to illustrate this?


Example:

My brother approached a SHB10 in Hollywood at a club. They were introduced to each other by a third party. Here's how it went down:

HB: "I'm Audrey."

Bro: "Who cares."

He followed by looking away nonchalantly as if he could care less. Some dude next to them was talking to her. My brother went for his wallet and pulled out two 20s.

Bro: (interrupting the dude) "Here's 40 bucks, why don't you go outside and get yourself some pussy?"

The dude was so taken aback he didn't even get angry. He was more confused and weirded out.

Bro: (to HB) "We're gonna go to a strip club and throw dollar bills at the animals. You wanna come with us or sit here and die of fucking boredom?"


The HB left with him and eventually they started dating. My brother is a total pig and even took a shit in her bed once! It was right after sex. He claimed it was accidental. But even that did not offend her. She only grimaced and then stooped down to sniff it!


QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS:


I, personally, would never go this far. But I do think that the greater the difference between the social proof of the HB and the PUA, the more negs required. Meaning, if she's a famous actress (high social proof) and you work at a subway in Kentucky, you're going to have to neg her to death.

But if you're rich and handsome and she knows it, does this change the opening?

How does it evolve from pissing her off to her actually giving you IOIs?

What kind of shit tests do you encounter? Do you "pass" them by just giving her a shit test back?

This is a tricky step for me. I'd love to hear some feedback with examples.

[A.J.]

Originally Posted by RecoveringAFC

Only low value guys have to act like your brother did.

.......no.......just because it was rude doesnt mean the guy is lower value, its ballzy to say things like that, im not saying its right but if anything its like CF combined with HARD Push pull times a million. i wouldant want to try most of it but theres no way i think this guy is lower value for it. fuck i wish i had friends as bad as this

and for the record if hes getting laid and getting gf's with what he does then your not allowed to rag on him or say "Oh that could never work". not trying to be a dick man i just dont like shit talked about guys when they can get results (same reason i will rip into anyone who badmouths Ross J regardless if they are an AFC or a mPUA)

[RecoveringAFC]

I'm simply saying high value guys: good looking, guys with good social skills overall (work, friends, family as well as 'hooking up'), with quality lives don't have to resort to this type of behavior. Also, I think you can safely infer this is a LSE girl if she doesn't object to someone shitting in her bed. You can guarantee it if she stoops to smell it.

I am not ragging on anyone, just trying to present guys with some options. Don't do and say shit just because "Style" or "Mystery" did it.

Originally Posted by A.J.

.......no.......just because it was rude doesnt mean the guy is lower value, its ballzy to say things like that, im not saying its right but if anything its like CF combined with HARD Push pull times a million. i wouldant want to try most of it but theres no way i think this guy is lower value for it. fuck i wish i had friends as bad as this

and for the record if hes getting laid and getting gf's with what he does then your not allowed to rag on him or say "Oh that could never work". not trying to be a dick man i just dont like shit talked about guys when they can get results (same reason i will rip into anyone who badmouths Ross J regardless if they are an AFC or a mPUA)

[A.J.]

Originally Posted by RecoveringAFC

Don't do and say shit just because "Style" or "Mystery" did it.

i dont copy guys like "mystery" or "style" im a student just like you are and i learn what i want, if i feel that someone has a good way of handling something then i will use it regardless of who it comes from. for example this guy, i will try and work in the "We're gonna go to a strip club and throw dollar bills at the animals." bit in my next interaction because i can make it work.

but enough about this, i dont want to start a meaningles fight on the forum especially when im not even in my proper section, i just saw the thread and responded