Project Toronto

[Solitaire]

There has been much talk in the group I belong to. I am sure other lairs, groups etc have had the thought also:

A Project Toronto

It's a fairly simple idea: 4+ guys, renting a house/mansion/pad as a base for the pickup community. Hosting parties, workshops, and generally being a resource that everyone can benefit from.

Many people (myself included) have shown a willingness to be a part of this. From looking for places, to offering to rent, and hosting the workshops. I admire everyones enthusiasm for this project, it is a very worthwhile endeavor.

But there is only one problem:

Who will play teacher, father, adviser, and master in seduction to us young men? The only MPUA/PUG I know is Mystery, and as you know, besides his workshop last week, he hasn't been to Toronto in FOREVER. We NEED a person who can lead us (at least in the beginning) and direct us in our studies. Without this, we are just a bunch of horny guys, trying to randomly pick up chicks by living in a house full of guys...

So spread the word! I know there HAS to be a MPUA/proven pickup artist who has the balls, and the AMBITION to become a leader for us. This is a project that will turn Chumps into seduction artists, and pickup artists into masters...

and for one lucky guy, a Master into a GURU. $$

[Vernon]

What liar/group do you belong to?
Who is currently leading your group?
Do really want to recruit a 'leader' or would you rather raise an organic leader through your own ranks?
What PU system does your group currently subscribe to?

[Solitaire]

Currently we are a group of around 50 guys on facebook. So far, we are democratic, with Paolo de Petta being the action man.

Leader would be better, like I said...none of us are MPUA guys. WE need not just a leader, but a real pick up arist

They use whatever works. I personally use Mysteries M3 Model, with whatever else works thrown in for the situation (cocky/funny, situational openers, alpha tactics etc)

I don't want to be seen as a part of any group. I merely look at my options, and take advantage of whatever perks there are...while giving whatever I have to offer. I went out with some guys over the last weekend, and was not too impressed. No game..others were ok, and 2 guys I met were dicks, with ok game..waaaay to overconfident. Oh, and did I mention elitist dicks?

[relics]

There an age limit?

[Vernon]

I know of a guy named Snow that runs weekly meetings in downtown Toronto. I cannot vouch for the quality of his PU skills, nor can I comment on his leadership abilities, as I have yet to attend his meetings. However, I have heard that he is good.

There are a number of MPUAs in the city, however, they are all affiliated with PU companies. My only suggestion to you is to have 4 or 5 guys from your group start the Project and master your PU skills. You guys become the leaders. I can tell you from experience that AFC guys will start to ask you how the heck you are pulling so well. You will begin to create a group of followers/students that will quickly gravitate to the Project.

I'm in the city. Let me know if there is anything that I can do to help.

[Solitaire]

Thank you vernon. I understand what you are saying completely. I also disagree, completely. having somebody with good skills will increase OUR skills dramatically, as well as lend credability INSTANTLY. Not only that, but you know this guy is going to be running shit from PTO, on top of the parties, rooms, etc we'll have.

So far, Neil Strauss has sent my request along to his coaches. A nice guy dropped me some names: Tenmagnet, Extramask, and somebody people HERE should have heard of....anybody know a Frank B Kermit?

I'm getting lots of heat on some of the forums/spots I post. Stirring up shit is what I do best. Lets me know that people have some fire for or against this....in the end, it doesn't matter. It will happen if I have to do it alone.

[Solitaire]

I'm in North bay, and if your on some of the *ahem* "Other" forums, you'll know exactely whats happening:

I'm selling all I own, and moving down to Toronto to kick some ass into making this happen.

You would also know, that Mystery Method asked for my #, and are going to be calling me about sending some instructors who want to come here.

Oh, and you'd also know I've been talking with Frank B Kermit, Extramask, and a few other well known local guys who don't want to move in, but are COMMITTED TO BEING INVOLVED IN MAKING THIS HAPPEN by teaching, doing workshops, and generally sharing with our community.

"Not bad for a days work. Imagine what I could do with 7" -Bruce Almighty

(Note that they all are not pledging the same amount of support or interest, but everyone has agreed to contribute in some way)

[BoyScout]

hi Solitaire,

I forwarded your Project Toronto info onto McMaax who has his own
company in Toronto. I'm sure you can find his site.

despite the "7 point" model stuff on his site, he's pretty much a MM guy
all the way.

his strong points are definitely mall game, and AMOGing which I believe
he learned personally from TD.

Best,

-BS

[h2flow]

all sounds good to me guys, be sure to keep me updated =]

[Solitaire]

Hahhaa, BoyScout...I love your initials

Yeah man, siunds good, lets do it...

-BS