The Misuse Of The Neg

[Maverick]

Originally Posted by Rewok

no. teasing spikes bt. teasing isnt a neg. a neg breaks a bitch shield. it is very black and white but the new kids in the community dont know what the hell negging or AMOGing is so they apply it to every situation with either a joke or another male, respectivelly.

you calling teasing and cocky funny a neg IS mis and overuse.

-Rewok

Rewok - it's all part of false disqualification theory. A low value guy is not gonna tease a 10, effectively making it a neg. Stop being so black & white.

-Mav

[Maverick]

Originally Posted by Jester

That is one purpose yes. There are many others. Ie tease negs can be used to spike attraction at anytime during the sarge.

Its not as black and white as simply being a 'backhanded compliment'

I think that some people here may have actually overlooked the purpose of the thread. Its about the over use and mis use of negs. Mav has reminded us all that we dont need to neg soo much. Not what its purpose is.

This isnt reinventing the neg wheel here. There are soo many threads on the theory of negging that its not even funny. This doesnt need to be one of them.

Thank you - Well summarized

[CrimsonKing]

Originally Posted by Orleans

I'd go as far as to challenge that unless you're getting serious problems from your target... to neg any girl less than a 10 more than once is unnecessary.

Remember kids. A 10 doesn't just mean looks, if it's a girl's birthday and she's out with her friends she's a 10. Being a 10 is a mentality. A way of thinking.

Callibrate.

Orleans makes an excellent point.

Here's a little story for you:
When I was first getting into the game, one of the first girls I gamed successfully was an 8-8.5 in terms of looks. But she had the mentality of an SHB11. This girl had some serious game too and she knew it. She could get any AFC (even the best naturals) to do anything for her. She would go to self-serve gas stations and get guys (or even the clerks) to pump her gas for her.

I was soooo mean to this girl, partially because I had little calibration, and partially because I knew how much value she felt she had. I pushed this girl away and negged her so bad I was sure on multiple occassions that I would never hear from her again. One of my favorites was the first time we talked on the phone and she was going on about her hair (she had curly-ish blonde hair) and I said "You kow what I find REALLY sexy? Straight black hair." That cut her so deep that she brought it up for months. But she sure did try to qualify herself an aweful lot.

[relics]

Rewok is right, and neg has been expanded into disqualification theory as maverick said.

You can get away without negging tens, and you shouldn't stick to any arbitrary rules with negging. Calibrate.

[Maverick]

Originally Posted by Rewok

dont be such a theory whore Mav. or a racist.

-Rewok

Huh? lol
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[Yoda]

You mentioned that we should emulate the attitude we use when we make dumb blonde jokes, my question is: is that a neg?

To approach a blonde bombshell and throw up a few dumb blonde jokes? Even if it dosent work it sounds like fun.

[Maverick]

Well not necessarily to open - but yeah. If she did something that wasn't too inteligent could reply with "Damn, i guess all those blonde jokes were true!"

The girl I'm seeing right now is a 9 but she's a geek, and i bust on her for it all the time. She knows I'm kidding but a regular joe would be so preoccupied with wooing her that it wouldn't even cross his mind to make fun of her. THAT is what sets you apart, and partially disqualifies your interest in her.

-Mav

[ware_ru]

the official party line of TMM definitely, and probably of VA as well, is that a neg is a false disqualifier. They make the girl think yo uare NOT pursuing her.

TEASING AND COCKY FUNNY ARE FLIRTING. Everyone who isn't a social retard knows that they are flirting (albeit competent flirting). A neg, on the other hand, is an FDQ, ONLY.

Teasing is an ioi and iod wrapped into one. That's why if you tease too early you get bad reactions. They are a way of AMPLIFYING some sort of initial attraction, because once she is attracted, you can throw iois and hit on her. But if she's not even remotely attracted and you try to tease her she thinks "wtf this loser is trying to tease me? i'm cooler than him, what a fucking loser wtf."

A neg is a FALSE DISQUALIFIER, ONLY. ONLY ONLY ONLY. If we are going to make pickup into a science we have to try to be as correct as possible.


Props to Rewok for contributing actual truths to this thread

[DJ Puff n Stuff]

ware_ru
Thanks for the clarification.
I had been getting a little confused with some of the information/posts I've been reading lately. You and the other contributors to this thread helped cement the correct concept a lot better.

[sigma]

I abandoned negging a long time ago

I laugh when I see guys do it