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Old 06-15-2012, 04:22 AM
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Woah!! That was really tough and rude response when you hadn't even insulted her or made a vulgar reference to her. This woman, despite your lack of skill yet, is probably just a bitch anyway, no one you should even consider saying hello to. What can I say dude? Just move on and forget about this exchange.
Thank you, this is how I felt. I mean, she treated me like I told her to fuck herself. This is what came to mind: http://i.imgur.com/lUxYW.png . 808 is right though, that was a strong bitch shield because she ain't just another HB like 6 or 7, she's borderline perfect, like 9.5 maybe a little more. She is so high up there socially that she learned how to step on people. I believe she expected me to kiss her foot after what she told me, which I will never do. I'm sure she's used to having everyone around her kissing her feet and treating her like a queen. I feel like if this interaction happened on real life it would have been quite different, I never had anybody reject me like that on real life, and if it does happen then I will be quite tempted to go, "Well, FUCK YOU then".

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"Ooops!!! I'm SOOOOOO sorry I didn't know you guys were DEAF and DUMB."
Make sure you exaggerate those words as much as you can. Don't just put up with Sh*t from women dude.
If there's one thing lovedrop has shoved through my head is that I should never go like, "Well FUCK YOU then". Because it may hurt my future social connections and lowers my value, plus, they didn't give me a strong enough reason, like that HB9.5 did.

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Guys have to innovate and evolve what the former fathers of PU started. Perhaps the book was published in 2006 but this movement probably happened years before that. So it's been what? 8-10 years perhaps.
I think you're absolutely right. That's why I made up my own openers and DHV and been having success on HBs who are alone. Back then it was the first field test on a group which crash and burned and didn't really know how to react. I need to get over it, I know, but I still don't know advanced tactics to entertain a group and isolate. I'll find out.

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and also don't be so lazy as to just sticking to online game.
This is the sticking point for me. I'm extremely blunt when I want and I can make a good connection with people, which means opening is not a problem. Yet, I still end up caving in rather than going outside to try, mostly because I feel like I don't have enough material, which I don't, and also because I need to work on my inner game (I'm balding and have some acne). My material barely goes up to A3, after that I'm out.


Thanks for the support man, I appreciate that. Keep on gaming!

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Old 06-15-2012, 07:54 AM
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Well, let me interrupt you here then 808! I personally haven't gamed much on facebook b/c I like to keep most things in my life personal but I do know of friends who do it and have had good results regularly. Just like some guys who go to the bars don't have any success and some others just achieve great results in the night scene.
I probably should have been more specific; what I meant wasn't intended for Online Game in general, I was talking about Facebook in particular. People on FB interact almost solely with connections they're already familiar to, and when they do reach out to someone new it's always through preselection or social proof: as I understood, 130n didn't know the target nor was he introduced.
That's what my remark was about.

Who knows, maybe with some changes the approach might have worked on a lower level target - and in another kind of community.
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Don't quite think so 808. If none of the women answered because they're all bitchy and they have no plain courtesy it's probably better to bounce off before things get even worse. It's a task of the sarger to have the discernment to assess the situation to see if it's worth to keep trying or just Ejecting.
Well that I couldn't know seeing as I wasn't there I absolutely agree on what you're saying on not taking any crap from women.

But still, Mystery himself advised to "push each set as far as you can just for the practice", and considering the episode we're discussing here, I believe that has more than one value: first, you get to game a very difficult set that even if ends up badly, you'll gain first-hand experience that you'll be able to use when you encounter a similar one in the future; second, if you try to push it just a little bit further than ejecting without saying a word, you might get to have the last word, which is gold for your perceived value and most importantly for your self-esteem.

I bet 130n would have felt much better if he ejected saying something like what you've suggested (or even a polite variation of "Well then, fuck you", for that matter).

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Old 06-15-2012, 01:14 PM
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I bet 130n would have felt much better if he ejected saying something like what you've suggested (or even a polite variation of "Well then, fuck you", for that matter).
I bet you're right. I'm the kind of person who lets feelings influence my life, and I'm trying to change that. If I had ejected saying something along the lines of, "Well, fuck it, flossing before brushing it is." - and left, that wouldn't insult them or anything and would've made me feel better.
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