Direct Day Game Approach

[prodigy409]

Just keeping you guys posted. I went to the grocery store and number closed an hb 9. I'm only 20, she was five years older and I still got her number. The phone game isn't looking so good, probably won't pan out, but point being you can number close using this, even in weird situations.

This is a situation that started as a number 2 situation (see my reply above) but turned into a number 3 after we exchanged ages. I should have recognized this and stuck around longer to dhv more, even though she seemed attracted at first. Either way no big deal, lesson learned, in set it's not over til it's over. Hopefully you guys learned as well.

[Cashanova]

The reason there is more approach anxiety is simple - our own plausible deniability. Ideally we've been taught to go in "covertly" and under the radar. If she blows off our openers we can always say, "well I must've gave away too much or not calibrated properly, etc." If you go in direct you don't have that shield of casual openers or discreetness. You're going in for one thing and if she flat out tells you to fuck off, not much room for excuses there.

[shady*]

I'm thinking of trying some day game... After reading this thread i liked the opener of:

"Ok this is annoying me, Can you explain to me where I know you from? Let me guess? Uni or you are one of my clients"

Where do you go from there though?

She'll say 1 of 3 things probably... 1) im not sure, 2) i dont recognise you (does this DLV you?), 3) maybe

What do you follow up with? You need to show some value, and if she's interested, qualify her. Do you move into a routine or continue on the client/uni line?

If she says she doesn't recognise you, could you DHV yourself by saying something like "you must just look like a lot of other girls i know" or something with the message that you have lots of attractive friends (social proof/DHV), and possibly a slight neg implying that she isn't anything special?

Then move on from there and say something like "so whats cool about you?" or "What sets you apart from the other girls i know then?"

Is this the right idea? Or is this too strong for day game...

[cake]

Originally Posted by prodigy409

The speak text thing isn't really a routine, just a line. After I get the number I start with that, then I just run my standard phone game.

could you give me the broad strokes on this? or give me a link or something.. this is something I really need to work on

[azazels_wolf]

Prophet wrote a fantastic article series on phone game, you can read it here:
http://www.venusianarts.com/author/prophet/

[Negative]

Shady stacking forward from this opener is very easy...

Most times they ask what uni you go to and/or what you do for work, which is a perfect opportunity for you to DHV about what you study or what you do for living.

If they blatantly state that they don’t recognise you without asking questions, which is unlikely, then just say “ I’m sure we’ll figure it out” cut the thread and talk about something else. Usually I jump to cold reads “ By the way I’ve noticed that you’re a visual person aren’t you? So you think in images and movies in your head…bla bla”
Then later “I figured it out…u look like my friend sally from uni / work / the lab / the clinic/euro trip….I don’t care what your name is…I’m calling you sally!”.

[pkwy]

Originally Posted by shady*

"Ok this is annoying me, Can you explain to me where I know you from? Let me guess? Uni or you are one of my clients"

What do you mean by "Uni"?

[azazels_wolf]

That's short for "university". Often used in Australian English.

[prodigy409]

Just thought I'd add a little to the line. Obviously it's constantly evolving, so I've tweaked it just slightly to fit my personality more, and to be a little more funny.

"Excuse me. I know this is really random, but I noticed you as I was shopping, and I'd kick myself in the ass if I didn't come over and meet you. My name is prodigy... (she introduces herself) Tell me a little about yourself."

Now obviously I didn't change much, but by saying "I'd kick myself in the ass" adds a little humor, more my personality

And by saying, "tell me a little about yourself" instead of, "what's special about hb" it doesn't put as much pressure on her, and seems more casual. Granted qualifying is always good, and now instead of a large hoop it's more of a medium hoop, but this way I can gauge her attraction levels. If she immediately starts telling me things that make her special (answers as if it was a large hoop), then she's obviously already attracted enough to me. If she doesn't give much for qualification and gives a weak answer, no big deal, now we're in a normal conversation and I can build more attraction.

could you give me the broad strokes on this? or give me a link or something.. this is something I really need to work on

phone game just takes practice like everything else. I know there is material out there on this topic, but if I was to add a quick summary: when texting, keep it light and playful. Don't start off by asking boring questions: "what's up?" "what are you doing", instead start off by making funny statements that don't require answers: "Fifth of Jagermeister + 12 games of beer pong = me waking up with no pants in a back alley... damn I love college" You also can do alot of role playing through texting: "if we don't hang out soon I'm totally getting a divorce... you can keep the kids but I do want my cds back." The great thing about role plays like this is you can turn them sexual, "look, physically the marriage has been good, really good...but I feel like you just haven't been there for me emotionally.. I'm not a piece of meat!" But we can save that for another post

Text before you call, but try to call when it comes time to set up plans. I've always found that making plans through text messages alone can lead to serious flaking. Calling can be a great comfort builder to if that's what your plan is

[Camelion]

I believe the DG ( Day Game) is pretty different on many levels. It takes half the energy you invest while you are in a clubbing.

The most part is DHVing and building emotional connections since you are at the begining just a random guy walking to the HB and she doesn't know what you want from her.

My line works wonders everytime, I just walk up to the HB and as I tap her on the shoulder I say '' Excuse me! I saw you from the cofee over there and realised you have a nice ( nickless, bag, whatever objest she has) ao I have to over and make your day. haha''

Now, this breaks her bitch shields. I normaly do some DHving and neg a bit than go for the #cloose if not a K-close Nice