Ask me ( a woman) for her opinion

[Tinker131313]

I am very interested in this whole "game." Would love to help you guys and get pointers in return and see if it works for women as well. If you would like a female perspective, please ask for my opinion.

[Rampage]

Here's a pointer, show up to a bar!

[Tinker131313]

I do go to bars, and with friends, but no one knows how to open sets!!!!

[matrixx]

Originally Posted by Tinker131313

I do go to bars, and with friends, but no one knows how to open sets!!!!

Do tell. How should a man open a set?

Originally Posted by Tinker131313

Most girls will put up that last minute resistance because we dont want to be viewed as sluts and whores. It doesnt hurt to persist, but not in an aggressive way. continue to make out, touch , rub, etc. Personally, if i am topless and making out with u, i am going to have sex. I might need a little gentle coaxing to get over that resistance.... but i intend to go further. If u back off, then so will I... andwe willl both be frustrated. Just continue to play and turn her on, acting like that if its all she wants to do then fine. Believe me, she will be so turned on she will want to go the next step.

Also, are you suggesting that "Freeze Outs" are actually counter-productive?


One more thing, I appreciate you and the effort you have shown. I would totally ignore the people up here that is skeptical and apprehensive. There is one cool ass girl that moderates on this other forum I visit, and she has a thread just like this. This chick is bad ass. She is a professional wingman and teaches aspiring PUA the arts. I'd say that's incredible.

[BangBang]

Tink,

First, good job on putting yourself out there trying to help a bunch of guys that you don't know.

I think the skepticism stems mostly from bad personal experience with women, I mean that's probably the main reason most of us are here in the first place. I don't think it's that anyone thinks you're lying or trying to mislead anyone, but, speaking from personal experience here, getting advice on women from a woman, while sound in theory, doesn't always work out like you'd expect.

For example, I've asked girl friends of mine on many occassions to describe to me what they look for in a guy. They'd proceed to spout off a list of attributes, almost as if scripted from romance novels, romantic comedies and sex and the city episodes that we've all come to expect: Funny, charming, attractive, a gentlemen, romantic, etc., etc. However, not a single one of them, as long as I've known them has dated a guy with those qualities. Ask a typical woman what her 'type' is and then look at her past relationships and you will rarely, if ever, find a match.

On the contrary, prior to finding this community, to prove a point, if only to myself, I went out and found that being almost the opposite of those qualities got me more success than the other way around, even though I'd gotten the information straight from the horses mouth as it were. Now it would be too convenient for anyone to simply dismiss this as 'those women were fucked up' or 'emotionally unstable' because it worked on more than one type of woman.

So I'd like to get your thoughts on this phenomenon as it may help us all to better understand the reasons why this 'game' exists in the first place. It would seem to me that women say that they want a nice guy, but typically do not respond at all positively when a 'nice' guy approaches them. Nice has about as much of a negative connotation for men as slut does for women, sad but true. It's as though women want a guy to be inherently nice deep down, but not openly and outwardly 'nice'. If you show too much interest, "hey I genuinely like you" you get shot down or shut out, but instead if you feign disinterest, the woman will be attracted and interested in you. Why do you think such a counterinuitive paradox seems to be the 'norm'?

[Tinker131313]

Sad to say , but its part of the game, BangBang. Yeah we would all like a nice guy, but to be honest, there is a thrill of the chase that happens when a man is stand offish. Its a challenge. We wont admit it, but there is a certain competitiveness amongst women, and its a charge to get a man that seems hard to get. Its like winning a prize. That puts us higher in rank than the other women. We want him to be nice, but we dont want him to be easy to get. Its silly in the end, but thats just human nature i guess.

[Tinker131313]

All the techniques i have heard on how to open a set Matrixx sound good to me. You should have no problem there. Freeze outs as i understand them, can be counterproductive if u totally freeze the woman out and dont come back in a rreasonable time period. They work for sure, but u must follow up and give her a chance to come to you and respond.

[Spanish]

Any sexual techniques you'd recommend? Ever heard of the spiderman?

[Keko]

aight.......whats your perspective on fashion?...will you ignore a guy if he dressed a certain way?

[Tinker131313]

If a man is obviously a fashion disaster, i will ignore him. However, if you are wearing something out of the ordinary.... something that makes u stand out.... I am intrigued by that and will likely ask u about it. Try to stand out a bit from the crowd. It really does help.