All you women: EXPLAIN YOUR RUDENESS, please....

[gladiatorb]

I have a serious quesiton that I need you chicks to answer truthfully. One that has me confused for, well, almost forever. It involves me seeing this slender tall "Brigitte Nielsen-lookin" blond decked out in bright red expensive fashionable clothes walking in my direction with her shorter gal pal, then me deciding to approach her, but I was only able to close the gap between us at 10 yards, when she suddenly veered sharply to the left, totally (& purposely) avoiding me without so much as a smile... leaving me standing there looking like a fool with his mouth open (cuz I was about to say something to her).

And to add insult upon insult, a bevy of guys across the street witnessed the whole thing and gawked & mocked me!!

I was in the middle of my Valentines Day Challenge, so I was about to open her politely and give her a V-day card, which was cupped in my left hand against my chest.

And actually, this type of incident has happened to me before (as it has other men too) in my life, altho not necessarily with any men around to witness it...So I know its not just her, but a trend with women in general.


My question is, HOW CAN ANY WOMEN BE SO GODDAM RUDE!?!!

I would understand such behavior from women IF I made any threatening movements, or if I pulled out a weapon, or if I flashed her.

Dudes, I do not believe that girl's behavior was warranted EVEN IF I spouted off lame pickup lines!

But all I did was SMILE, walk toward her, maintainign eye contact, and was about to say something! But she didn't even give me a chance to get ONE WORD out! BTW, at the time, I was also dressed in stylish clothes, walked tall, had alpha posture, was in a good mood & smiling...that is, until that tall white bitch totally destroyed my feelings.


WHY do you chicks you that?!?!! Especially toward guys like me who DON'T deserve that kind of treatment!!




(BTW, you girls just don't know how those "little" rude actions make us men feel...AND what it does to our esteem and our status as men! That is just utterly disrespectful !!!)

(Howabout we men go around telling you chicks how fat & revolting you are? And for no good reason.)

[Czech]

'Cause it's fun, silly. If you can't handle a small rejection like that, you obviously don't deserve her respect in the first place. Stop taking things personally.

Hate the game, not the player. And she's definitely a player.

[DaveyFresh"]

She was capable of doing so.. because she has experience. Are you fully 100% confident you weren't ozzing a subconscious intent?

Where is your inner game if one moment could cripple your entire esteem. Ponder where your weakness lies.. if a total stranger could obtain decisive victory in one move.

She knew this.

[dibz]

Its not rude. She doesn't have to listen to your approach Women do not have a social obligation to tolerate a man's pick up attempts. You are a complete stranger. If I see a man approaching me and I don't feel like being approached, I don't find him attractive, I am busy, or I am just minding my business, I will walk away, cross a street, move to the other side of the grocery store, whatever.

Why? Because too many men can't take a polite hint and they will take your time and energy when you don't want them in your face. Its much easier to just walk away. Even if they could take a polite hint, again, we have no obligation to listen. So its not rude.

If your ego is crushed, that's your problem, not hers.

[gladiatorb]

RE-REPLY with these in mind:

1. She doesn't know I was gonna hit on her! I'm just a stranger. It coulda been ANYTHING. Asking for directions, etc.

2. Stop saying we men have "egos". That is incorrect. According to male psychology, its "status"...our status as men...NOT "ego".

3. She may not have an obligation to accept me, just as I don't have an obligation to be polite to women by not saying their fat. But some of us live with an idealism that values politeness.

4. Compare this with if we men were to just say your fat & gross. EVERY woman I know would be damaged in some way by this. Any REAL gentleman would not do that to a woman. So any REAL lady would not be so rude either.

5. Yo, TRuTH:
>>>>Where is your inner game if one moment could cripple your entire esteem..if a total stranger could obtain decisive victory in one move. She knew this. <<<<

First off, her behavior didn't "cripple" me. I would approach her again if I had to. No, its a situation of ME shaking my head in wonder & disgust at this strange behavior...AND the fact that those other guys decided to mock me.
Furthermore...its not about that one moment...my question/thread is about that very behavior in some women, in general....WHY? Plus, if she "knew she could cripple me with one simple act", then wouldn't that make her a mean nasty bitch by doing it anyway?

6. Feminists wonder why some men have a disdain for women...well gee, I wonder! Why don't they take a look at the behaviors of some of their sisterhood, instead of looking at the man?!! So-called "woman hating" starts from somewhere, and builds up in gradients.

7. If a woman wants my love & respect, she's gonna hafta be a LOT more courteous & sensitive than the ones who act like this.

[dibz]

You equate a woman moving her direction to avoid you to calling someone fat and gross?

Really?

And this is a reason to hate women?

Wow.

And this has to do with the male status

If that is the case, men need therapy.

[LeatherJacket]

Originally Posted by dibz

Why? Because too many men can't take a polite hint and they will take your time and energy when you don't want them in your face. Its much easier to just walk away. Even if they could take a polite hint, again, we have no obligation to listen. So its not rude.

Yeah, it's called "plowing". Men are told to do it around these parts.

If your ego is crushed, that's your problem, not hers.

Nice to know we live in such a compassionate society.

[Tommy Sinatra]

Gladiator...You can't expect to get every women to talk to you. You have to realize that women are "rude" because they get hit on all the time, the more attractive she is the more she gets hit on. It's called a bitch sheld. They can spot your type from a mile away. You may be projecting too much neediness or creepiness. Honestly, just reading how you were approaching her made me cringe. I'm really not trying to be rude but walking up to her holding a valentine's day card on your chest?? I would have run the other way too. It doesn't mean she's a bitch it just means she wasn't interested and you can't blame her for that. Put yourself in her position. Like Dibz said, imagine being hit on ALL DAY LONG by fat, nasty chicks. Sooner or later you would be like oh shit here comes another one, RUN!

[gladiatorb]

If what all you guys said is true, then I've been mis-led the whole time. I been told by several gurus (mostly female gurus) to "just go for it"...to just "be forward"...to "just approach".

So that's what I do. That's what's been ground into my head. To show interest, and state your intentions, right away. I've been told by at least ONE female guru that "it turns women on when you show your interest straight-forwardly".

And now YOU guys tell me the opposite. OMG. And I take it that YOU guys have the correct answer, based on the results (mine & yours).

Now ya see? THIS is the type of confusing contradiction that is plagueing in the Community, especially for newbies who have not taken a bootcamp yet. Even for newbies who have bought some products.

LOTS and LOTS of contradictory info, so confusing.

[eaglering]

Yeah its the same unhelpful stuff as "oh just be yourself", you not the only one there.

Read The Mystery Method. If you've already done that...read it again and look for the deeper meaning behind the concepts and the reasons why you do things in a certain way.

If this female "guru" you talk about said "it turns women on when you show your interest straight-forwardly", I would translate that to "every women would feel soooo validated if men were to show their interest straight-forwardly". It doesn't mean she is going to let you inside her, she has already won you. She has choice now not you. What reason have you given her for her to stick with you?

I wouldn't call Kezia Noble a pick-up guru but I suggest you read a book of hers to get an insight into how a women thinks.

You've gotta find the deeper reasons and meanings of this pick-up stuff, it'll be difficult but you'll get there eventually.