Age Qualification Question - How Should I Answer?

[academia]

Hey guys. I searched the forums and found lots of posts on older guys picking up younger women but I have a specific question that I didn’t see addressed (apologies up front if it’s out there and I missed it).

Let me provide some information that might provide a useful context for the problem I’m having.

First, I’m a 43, soon to be 44 years old.

Second, I have absolutely no physical or psychological problem with my age. I’m very active, feel young, and often act and dress younger than what I really am.

Third, women consistently guess my age to be anywhere from 27-34 (They always ask and I always make them guess).

Second, I realize that it’s possible for older guys to successfully pull younger women as I’ve pulled girls in their early twenties and had an excellent three year relationship with one in her early/mid twenties (although she did struggle with my age for the first few years). My question isn’t whether it’s possible for older women to date or pick up younger women, my question is this:

As I’m chatting up a girl and things are going well (she seems to be enjoying herself, I’m getting IOI’s, etc.) she eventually asks the inevitable question: “how old are you?” (especially after she finds out that I’m a college professor). As I mentioned above I always have her guess. I’ve tried skirting around the issue by changing the subject and controlling the frame, but ultimately, the question always comes up again. I’ve noticed that if I playfully refuse to answer she shuts down immediately (I’m assuming because she thinks I’m hiding something or because I’m being overly stubborn). Sooo… any suggestions on getting around this problem? I don’t want to lie about my age because I think that would potentially create other issues down the road…

[Bagles]

If your comfortable with your own age then just tell her... after she guesses. accept your self and your age and so will she. and if she doesn't... that's her loss.

[Bagles]

oh and as far as how to say it... i remember reading something that mystery said. i don't really like it much but you can see if you do.

PUA: omg i'm way to old for you.

HB: why? how old are you?

PUA: (say your age)

HB: thats not too old! thats perfect. (or how ever she responds. but basically she won't just say "your right that is too old")

[Rodehard]

I have her guess, normally its within 5 or 7 years of my age (45) then I say "damn that was a good guess, you should get a job with the carnival. That normally puts it off till more comfort and attachment is built. I never lie, I just avoid answering the question. However I never f'close a girl without her knowing how old I am. There is a difference between avoiding an answer to built comfort, and lying to get laid.

[UpStage]

Im 37 and I do the whole guess thing then I say I'm 37 with pride like its an asset, because I think is it. Gotta be proud of who you are.

[Viscount]

Hi Mate,

Just reading the Venusian Arts Handbook and this very thing came up. They used it as a great opportunity to control the situation through the use of Hoop theory (p 135).

Have reposted here as it may help (well I thought it was pretty good)……

Example 1
Girl: How old are you?
You: Guess
Girl: hmm… 26?
You: Close am actually XXX

“In the first example she asks your age, but instead of answering straight away, you make her guess first.”

Example 2
You: How old are you?
Girl: Guess
You: Do you want me to guess low, or guess high?
Girl: Guess low!
You: Ok then… I’d say you look about 22

“In the second example, she tries the same trick back on you but your frame is too strong!”

Personally I thought this is a very effective way of controlling the conversation

Cheers
V

[Stoic]

Academia,
That is a wonderful question, and I am still trying to figure out how to answer it. I am 50, soon to be 51, and I also have a doctorate. I use that in my favor. If a young woman is asking you your age, take it as an IOI. Sure, she is qualifying you, but, the best way to approach this type of situation is to use A/B testing. Come up with some response, any sort of response, nd use it consistently for a few weeks. Then try another response, and see if you get different results. I discovered that the way the original model for pick up was developed was that they (Mystery, et al.) would just try something, expecting that they might get blown out, and would then try something else and would see what worked. They did not care about rejection they were social science, participant observation experimenters. Since you and I are roughly in the same situation, I would like to suggest to you that we exchange some private messages, and talk about some gambits/response we can use when we are questioned about our age, and then we trade info on what has worked for us. It fact, as I am writing this, I think that were be an interesting project (See? I love this stuff, I can experiement without having to deal with an IRB.) Then, after you and I figure some stuff out about what is the most effective, we can co-write a little article for posting on here.

PM me through this and we can talk about the problem of how old intelelctual academics can be more effective gaming nubile younger women. I think the solution is A/B testing various responses to that qualifying question.
No matter what, be the Ghost and the Flame!


Epicure.

Hold It Off:

Do not bring up age in the conversation untill she does, the goal would be to make it passed seduction before you tell her. If worse comes to worse at least you got laid XD haha

If she brings it up right before sex.. during foreplay... I would imagine that to be kind of akward... it would show she has been thinking about it.

If she brings it up during comfort.. I think that would be a great time to introduce it.. because she will be amazed that you are so much older than her and yet she is so atracted to you.

If she brings it up during attraction I would say that is like a 50/50 chance. It jut depends on her.



Who cares:

I agree with Bagles --- If your comfortable with your own age then just tell her... after she guesses. accept your self and your age and so will she. and if she doesn't... that's her loss.

It is the best way to aproach this as for inner game and peace of mind. If you don't worry about it, it will put you at ease... only downfal is statistics and probability... this way you wont bother t find out what works.. you will just go by chance... and not care!



Frame Control:

OMG! You are way to young for me!

Hush little girl

Please.. I used to bully your dad in high school :P

I got years of experience on you!

What is it with you young girls!

Youngin :P

THE LIST IS ENDLESS...

[MoMoneyDiamonds]

18-yr-old HB 10: "How old are you?"
40-yr-old PUA: "How old do I look?"
18-yr-old HB 10: "27?"
40-yr-old PUA: "Close enough." And then change the topic and\or ignore further inquiries.

The Writer Mo Ibrahim