ON RATING WOMENS' ATTRACTIVENESS - The Natural Approach

[Johnny Soporno]

This is basically something I presented at the Cliff's List Convention which seemed to have had the desired effect

Note: Please take into account that this does not address 'calibration' or other methodical and procedural jusitifcations for established rating schemes; and that the KEY element in using such schemes is not YOUR assessment of the target, but rather HOW SHE VIEWS HERSELF! (thanks to Vincent Chase for this reframe)

I believe what I am describing here is the NORMAL, NATURAL, and AUTOMATIC 'attractiveness' scale which is used in all first-world societies, regardless of gender/sexual preference.

I believe that fundamentally, the TRUE rating-system which normal men and women both use is a four level scale, from zero-to-three.

0 - I WOULDN'T fuck 'em.
1 - I COULD fuck 'em...
2 - I'D LIKE to fuck 'em!
3 - They wouldn't fuck me.

This is very elegant in that it requires no external guidelines for definition, needn't be vocalized, and is, of course, completely subjective. In fact, it's pretty-much ingrained into everyone from birth.

HOWEVER, once you reach a certain-level of experience in The Game, and have TRULY established yourself as a Worthy Playboy, you realize that there is NO SUCH THING as a category of people who are unattainable. Oh, there are specific individuals who won't hook up with you, but they might come from the 0 category as readily as the 3's.

So we can, and will, entirely drop the notion of 3's - WHOOMP! Gone.

Now there are only three levels...

Much easier

Of course, by the time you've reached THAT level, you've also eliminated all memory of 'sexual desperation' - It's so far in your past, you can't even imagine being hard-up for sexual company, or needing to settle for something less than delightful. In fact, you'd much rather sleep alone that go to bed with someone you're not attracted to....

SO we can entirely eliminate the notion of 1's, and there there were two.

VERY simple now, with only two options: Yes or No...

I WOULDN'T fuck 'em
I'D LIKE to fuck 'em

NOW - sometimes a perfect YES will instant drop to an absolute NO within seconds of meeting them...

For example:
Across the room, this girl is STUNNING, dressed to kill, perfect lips, great body, bedroom eyes... and you make your approach, and she enthusiastically responds with:
"I'm SO glad you're here, all night long nothing but fuckin' [severly offensive racial slur here] bastards have been hitting on me all night! Like I'd EVEN TALK TO THEM!"

And (for most of us anyway, I should hope) she immediately flips the switch, drops to a ZERO and we recoil. Damn shame... but instead of thinking "Wow, that was an HB9.5! I can be a hypocrit and compromise myself for a 9.5!" you see her for what she TRULY is - a zero. NEXT!

There are a limitless number of things which can cause a YES to become a NO - sometime immediately obvious, sometimes insidious, but IF the rating changes, it's time to walk away.

That said, there's also often something which justifies a transition from a NO to a YES! - Because as mature Players, you no-longer need to be bothered with the concept of WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK of your playmates... You go to bed with people who turn you on & make you happy and proud to be with them, not because other guys will envy you.

Maybe the person in question has changed externally - lost weight, had cosmetic surgery, spend months in the gym, whatever... maybe the person has change internally, recanted from her previous psychotic or otherwise unattractive mindset, and become someone you can enjoy... or maybe YOU have changed and you've become more interested in her and her bodyshape matters less than it did before... but IF that switch changes, GO FOR IT. No one else has ANYTHING to say about whether the object of your affections is 'hot enough' for you...
Q: "Why are fat chicks like Mopeds?"
A: "Because they're fun to ride on as long as nobody you know sees you!"

Now, at THIS level of The Game, you'd NEVER worry about how you'd look in other's eyes - you just do what makes sense and feels right TO YOU - no regrets!

It's YOUR LIFE, and YOUR HAPPINESS, and if you're too weak to follow-up a YES because other people might decide she's a NO, you're an idiot. Right? And NO Worthy Playboy would EVER look down his nose at someone who's HAPPY - 'cuz nothing else matters - THEY'RE WINNING THE GAME IF THEY ARE HAPPY!

Now, I'd like to remind you all, I'm NOT suggesting that you start dating women who don't turn you on - not by any means. There's no happiness in THAT at all.

What I'm ACTUALLY saying is that there's ACTUALLY a very distinct division between someone you wouldn't go to bed with, and someone you'd like to go to bed with, and ONLY YOU can decide on which side any particular person exists.

Good Luck! And may you find endless happiness with many subjectively-beautiful playmates!

Johnny Soporno

[Randel Flagg]

but your still rating women. whats the difference between hb 10 and a 3?? You still on a number scale.

[Johnny Soporno]

Originally Posted by tredd

but your still rating women. whats the difference between hb 10 and a 3?? You still on a number scale.

Hi Tredd - I always appreciate well-reasoned and coherent feedback!

Now that you've gone to the trouble of responding to the post, why not try READING IT?

Sheesh!

There is NO number scale. It's STRICTLY Pass/Fail - Yes or No.

You must overcome your need for validation from other men.

Make your descisions based on SOLELY your own tastes and temperment... and never worry at all about what other people think.

Johnny Soporno
Worthy Playboy

[TruePlayer]

Originally Posted by Johnny Soporno

blah, blah, blah...

*snore*

1-10 will do fine.

OP=Another wannabe Einstein of the Venusian Arts.

[relics]

love this post.

Honestly, 1-10 was getting real old for me, and girls in the game thinks it made me judgemental.

[fishbulb]

I can't find any flaws in that logic JS. Good stuff.

[ReallyPatheticFatSlob]

I'm going to use this as a routine. haha

[Johnny Soporno]

Originally Posted by ReallyPatheticFatSlob

I'm going to use this as a routine.

Go for it, RPFS! It works

Women are JUST LIKE MEN - they check a guy out, and they think

0 - Not enough beer on Earth
1 - Maybe If I'm really horny
2 - That's what I'm talkin' about!
3 - OMFG! He's SO gorgeous! But he's outta my league...

Now, the truly gorgeous and comfortable-with-themselves girls, just like mature Players, drop both the 0s and 1s into the "No" pile, and transition the 3s and 2s into the "YES" pile, and govern themselves accordingly.



Johnny Soporno
Worthy Playboy

[Faust]

Johnny,

Your system is more human. I never really liked the number system, for a few reasons. Firstly, it dehumanizes women. I understand at some point the PUA trainee must think of his targets as, well, targets in order to overcome his anxiety. But that's just a crutch. Secondly, one's HB8 is probably another's HB6. I for one rarely find so-called HB8-9 that attractive. I prefer the normal girls.

[Randel Flagg]

No problem dude.

You have some good points I think its great stuff Its just for some of us once you get in a rut, its tough to change your ways. Doesnt mean your wrong.

Keep the good stuff comming